Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/02/1995 03:07 PM House HES

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          HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES                          
                       STANDING COMMITTEE                                      
                        February 2, 1995                                       
                           3:07 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Representative Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair                                       
 Representative Con Bunde, Co-Chair                                            
 Representative Caren Robinson                                                 
 Representative Tom Brice                                                      
                                                                               
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                
                                                                               
 Representative Al Vezey                                                       
 Representative Gary Davis                                                     
 Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                
                                                                               
 OTHER HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                   
                                                                               
 Representative Bettye Davis                                                   
 Representative Ivan                                                           
 Representative Richard Foster                                                 
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 Overview of the Department of Health and Social Services.                     
                                                                               
 Update on the TB epidemic in Alaska.                                          
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 KAREN PERDUE, Commissioner Designee                                           
 Department of Health and Social Services                                      
 350 Main Street, Room 229                                                     
 Juneau, AK  99801                                                             
 Telephone:  (907) 465-3030                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided overview information on the                     
  Department of Health and Social Services                                 
                                                                               
 DR. PETER NAKAMURA, Director                                                  
 Division of Public Health                                                     
 Department of Health and Social Services                                      
 350 Main Street, Room 403                                                     
 Juneau, AK  99801                                                             
 Telephone:  (907) 465-3090                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on the TB epidemic in               
      Alaska                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. JOHN MIDDAUGH, Chief, Section of Epidemiology                             
 Division of Public Health                                                     
 Department of Health and Social Services                                      
 P.O. Box 240249                                                               
 Anchorage, AK  99524-0249                                                     
 Telephone:  (907) 561-4406                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on the TB epidemic in               
      Alaska                                                                   
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-4, SIDE A                                                             
 Number 000                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR CYNTHIA TOOHEY called the Health, Education and Social               
 Services (HESS) Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:07 p.m.              
 Members present at the call to order were Representatives Toohey,             
 Bunde and Robinson.                                                           
                                                                               
 OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                    
                                                                               
 Number 123                                                                    
                                                                               
 KAREN PERDUE, Commissioner Designee, Department of Health and                 
 Social Services, introduced members of her staff who were present:            
 Deputy Commissioner, Jay Livey; Deborah Smith, Executive Director,            
 Mental Health Board; Janet Clarke, Director, Division of                      
 Administrative Services; Kathy Tibble, Acting Director, Division of           
 Family and Youth Services; Leonard Abel, Program Administrator,               
 Community Mental Health Services; Russ Webb, Deputy Director,                 
 Public Health Program; Elfrida Nord, Chief, Section of Nursing; Dr.           
 John Middaugh, Chief, Section of Epidemiology; Jim Dalman, Acting             
 Director, Division of Public Assistance; Dr. Peter Nakamura,                  
 Director, Division of Public Health; Randy Super, Acting Director,            
 Division of Medical Assistance; Jim Galea, Budget Analyst, Division           
 of Administrative Services; and Elmer Lindstrom, Special Assistant,           
 Department of Health and Social Services.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 207                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE informed the HESS Committee members that                  
 previously she served as a Deputy Commissioner in the Department of           
 Health and Social Services for about six years.  In 1990, she went            
 to Fairbanks and has spent the last several years in her own                  
 business, working with community-based agencies in an attempt to              
 look at system improvements and make systems more responsive to               
 Alaska's needs.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 247                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE continued that for the last year, she has been            
 working on a project within the Department of Health and Social               
 Services which strives to improve children's services.  Children              
 and families comprise a large part of the department's customers.             
 Although many programs strictly serve adults, the vast majority of            
 efforts involve children and families.  About one-half of the                 
 department's spending is devoted to children.  There are about                
 184,000 children in Alaska, comprising about 34 percent of the                
 entire population.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 319                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE said the project was a fiscal analysis of the             
 money spent on children by the department.  It was found that for             
 every six dollars spent on treatment, only one dollar is spent on             
 prevention and early intervention.  State general funds and the               
 state general fund match finance mostly treatment services, and               
 federal funds finance most of the department's prevention efforts.            
 An analysis by age showed that 70 percent of the spending for                 
 pregnant women was preventive, and in the birth to age two group              
 about 50 percent of efforts were preventive.  But as soon as                  
 children entered the school system at the age of six, very little             
 of the department's money was spent on these ages.                            
                                                                               
 Number 384                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE summarized that before children entered school,           
 the Department of Health and Social Services played a greater role            
 in preventive spending.  As soon as children become school age, the           
 efforts are weak.  It was concluded that the system in place is               
 somewhat crisis-driven.  Basically the programs in place,                     
 particularly for adolescents, require children to fail before they            
 qualify for services.  This system probably reinforces dependency             
 rather than addressing the problems early and working on developing           
 problems.  It was also concluded that the programs were fragmented.           
 Sixty child health programs operate on approximately 68 different             
 statutes, 31 sets of regulations and 49 policy and procedure                  
 manuals.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 455                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE explained that funding, particularly federal              
 funding, is very fragmented because focus is placed on the "disease           
 of the week," or problem-of-the-month situation.  It was never                
 discovered how many children in total were being served, although             
 each program keeps its own complete data.  Many people in the                 
 department would like to rectify that problem.  It is believed,               
 however, that 10 percent of children drive about 90 percent of                
 costs.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 517                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE then told HESS Committee members the good news            
 concerning the Department of Health and Social Services.  She does            
 not like to dwell on the negative to justify her budget, because in           
 the long run it erodes department members' confidence that programs           
 can work.  The statistics tell Commissioner Perdue that Alaska is             
 a good place to raise children.  Alaskan kids are, for the most               
 part, healthy, have good homes with loving parents (whether rich or           
 poor), and most grow up to be productive adults.                              
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE continued that out of 184,000 children, about             
 15 children committed suicide.  These children are a tragedy, but             
 that number is relatively small.  Out of 184,000 children last                
 year, 84 died of injury, 1,200 children were born to teen-age                 
 mothers, and only 400 teen-age mothers were on Aid to Families with           
 Dependent Children (AFDC).  She stressed that each child is                   
 valuable, but the tasks involved with care are possible to                    
 accomplish.  The focus must be on prevention.  Social services                
 technology is available to make a difference.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 608                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE added that all the scientific literature says             
 that in order to take a child and transform him or her into a                 
 conscientious member of society, the child needs one thing:                   
 unconditional love.  Children of any socioeconomical class, genetic           
 makeup, or demographic statistic always do better in life if they             
 grow up believing there are adults in this world who care about               
 them, love them, and want nothing in return but love.  Kids who               
 begin life abused or neglected and end up in foster homes and                 
 juvenile institutions receive a very different message--life is               
 tough, rewards and punishments are arbitrary, the future is                   
 unpredictable and human attachments are probably fleeting.                    
                                                                               
 At 3:15 p.m. Representative Tom Brice joined the meeting.                     
                                                                               
 Number 670                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE stated that those facts lead her to focus on              
 strengthening the family, because the family is the place where the           
 child will find most of what he or she needs.  This is critical               
 when the child is very young, and services are really more cost               
 effective and effective in general when they are designed to                  
 strengthen the family early on, before the damage is done.                    
                                                                               
 There are very good examples of these programs in Alaska.  One is             
 the Celebration of Life program, which helps pregnant women stay              
 sober when they are living in a situation where alcohol is                    
 prevalent.  Other mothers provide support during this time.                   
                                                                               
 The Head Start program and the Healthy Families program are based             
 on the Hawaii model.  These programs are usable in Alaska, and they           
 are cost-effective programs.  Every major report written in the               
 last decade about Alaskan children says that the focus needs to be            
 on prevention.  Unfortunately, this is not done.                              
                                                                               
 Number 737                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE feels the reason prevention is not done is that           
 we don't have confidence that prevention will work, and there is              
 concern that tremendous treatment needs will be ignored.                      
 Commissioner Perdue stresses that confidence is necessary to                  
 gradually move toward providing prevention.                                   
                                                                               
 Over the next four years, Commissioner Perdue would like to make              
 prevention a priority for both new funding and in downsizing.                 
 Also, a priority is the tracking of prevention dollars in order to            
 better coordinate prevention efforts.  Another priority is to                 
 encourage collaboration between departments.  Efforts such as the             
 current assessment were carefully planned and barriers were                   
 identified.  The private sector has been planning like this for               
 years, and it works.  It is important to get everyone involved in             
 solutions.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 795                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE stressed that the Department of Health and                
 Social Services must work with the Department of Education and the            
 school districts if it desires to be involved with school-age                 
 children.  The department must encourage the decategorization of              
 funding to the fullest extent possible in order to give communities           
 more flexibility.  Finally, the Department of Health and Social               
 Services needs to recognize who their customers are and increase              
 its accountability to them.                                                   
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE said often programs ask people what they need,            
 but it doesn't listen when people come into an office and offer               
 information and help.  This approach has been attempted in many               
 ways, and what was found is that families actually want less than             
 what was originally offered.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 843                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE also stressed it was important to give front-             
 line people more authority to bend the rules.  Families don't work            
 with Health and Social Services department officials, they work               
 with front-line workers.  It is very good to let people vote                  
 through providing them with choices, noticing what they choose, and           
 then working with those choices.  Success should be measured by               
 people's happiness with the services offered.  All of the                     
 aforementioned are currently being done in the Department of Health           
 and Social Services.  All the priorities are possible to                      
 accomplish.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 762                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE continued that over the next four years she               
 would like to expand the current programs and to make the system              
 more efficient and cost effective.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 922                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY noted for the record that the meeting was also                
 being attended by Representatives Bettye Davis, Ivan Ivan, and                
 Richard Foster.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 928                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE asked Commissioner Perdue if the overview            
 would continue with a divisional breakdown.                                   
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE answered that was not in the current plans, due           
 to the following briefing on the tuberculosis epidemic occurring in           
 the state.                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRICE voiced concern about the status of Harborview,           
 a Valdez nursing facility.  He also stated that during the                    
 philosophical move away from institutional-based care to community-           
 based care, budgets end up being cut at institutions.  He wanted to           
 know what is happening with inpatient psychiatric services                    
 throughout the state.                                                         
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE mentioned that she only has been at her job for           
 three weeks, therefore some facts may be erroneous.  However, the             
 population of Harborview has declined significantly due to the                
 Intermediate Care Facility for the Mentally Retarded (ICFMR)                  
 services.  Currently, a long-term plan is in the works which will             
 eliminate the need for the ICFMR services in Valdez.  There is a              
 credible plan for each and every person to place them in the                  
 community.                                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE continued that the Sourdough Unit, which is a             
 nursing facility, still has a need for continued services for the             
 16 people residing there.  The analysis being done currently                  
 concerns whether that is a state mission and function.  The                   
 department does not typically operate nursing homes--it licenses              
 them, services them and provides Medicaid payments for them.  The             
 question of whether the department is going to continue supporting            
 nursing home functions at Harborview is a large question.  This is            
 a big policy question.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1048                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked Representative Brice if the Sourdough Unit              
 contained victims of Alzheimer's disease.  REPRESENTATIVE BRICE               
 responded yes, and also victims of severe dementia.  CO-CHAIR                 
 TOOHEY asked if there was a fairly determined life span for victims           
 of Alzheimer's, and whether or not it was a function of the                   
 government to take these victims out of their homes and place them            
 in Harborview.                                                                
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE responded that she did not know the age of                
 people at Sourdough.  People can live a very long time with                   
 dementia.  People have to have a medical need to be in a nursing              
 home.  She ventured that Sourdough residents therefore came from              
 another nursing home, and they probably require extra care.                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY said the end of Alzheimer's is quite violent.                 
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE agreed that time was very difficult and unsafe.           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN IVAN commended Commissioner Perdue on her                 
 positive approach.  He reminisced about past problems when tribal             
 governments argued with the state about sovereignty issues and                
 control.  Sometimes children were in the middle of a tug-of-war               
 between the community and officials from the department.  He felt             
 the relationship has come a long way and currently there is much              
 coordination and cooperation.  He congratulated and encouraged the            
 department to work with the community councils.  He felt that both            
 the community and the Department of Health and Social Services had            
 something in common--the priority of taking care of children and              
 making sure health needs are met.  He offered her assistance and              
 wished her luck.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 1180                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY noted for the record that Co-Chair Con Bunde left             
 the meeting to attend an audit meeting and make a quorum.  He will            
 return shortly.                                                               
                                                                               
 UPDATE ON THE TUBERCULOSIS EPIDEMIC IN THE STATE OF ALASKA                   
                                                                              
 Number 1231                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. PETER NAKAMURA, Director, Division of Public Health, Department           
 of Health & Social Services, thanked the HESS Committee members and           
 said he would also try to address the AIDS issue in Alaska as per             
 Co-Chair Toohey's request.  He appreciated the opportunity to speak           
 on tuberculosis (TB) because the topic has gained a lot of                    
 attention in Alaska recently.  There has been significant                     
 recurrence of problems that were considered controlled.                       
                                                                               
 Number 1252                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA began with a historical perspective of TB.  In 1934,             
 the year Dr. Nakamura was born, TB was a significant problem.  The            
 death rate in the Alaska Native population was about 665 per                  
 100,000.  This is a very high figure.  About 35.5 percent of all              
 deaths in America at that time was due to TB.  In 1946, or, more              
 generally, between 1934 and 1950, the figures were even higher--              
 almost 50 percent of deaths recorded on death certificates.                   
                                                                               
 Number 1317                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA continued that in 1952 he graduated from high school             
 and TB was dealt with in very different ways than from today.  It             
 was not uncommon to find patients with glass balls in their chests            
 to compress their lungs in an attempt to contain the disease.                 
 Physicians often put air into the chest to collapse a lung.                   
 Treatment was not up to decent standards.  In 1952, a drug called             
 INH came out which changed treatment significantly.                           
                                                                               
 Number 1361                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA added that another change occurred in that year in how           
 the TB problem was addressed, especially in Alaska.  Teams were               
 sent out to communities to diagnose TB.  X-ray machines were taken            
 to communities in an attempt to diagnose problems in communities.             
 At that time, people were present who were the precursor to                   
 Community Health Aides.  These were people from the communities who           
 were assigned to make sure that patients took their medication.               
 This was important because the only way to control the problem was            
 through the consistent administration of medication.  Perhaps the             
 unfortunate thing about that time was the practice of moving                  
 patients to institutions, away from home, causing social problems             
 due to their absence from their home and community.                           
                                                                               
 Number 1402                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA said the response to TB at that time was very                    
 significant.  The infection rate in 1952, not just for the Native             
 communities but for all of Alaska, was about 400 per 100,000.  This           
 was a significant drop.                                                       
                                                                               
 In 1961, when Dr. Nakamura graduated from medical school, many                
 invasive treatment procedures where still being used.  However, the           
 TB rate had dropped to 100 per 100,000.  This was because of the              
 effort to address the problem.                                                
                                                                               
 In 1969, Dr. Nakamura came to Alaska and worked in Anchorage at the           
 Native Hospital as a pediatrician.  He then worked in Bethel for              
 two years as head of their health care program.  At that time, the            
 rate had dropped further to 50 per 100,000.  The state had a major            
 role in this drop.  The public health nurses were overseeing the              
 investigation of most of the TB problems, and the state was really            
 responsible for much of the treatment.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1469                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA said that during this time, the Indian Health Service            
 (IHS) invested significant amounts of money for such projects as              
 the creation of hospitals and for the availability of teams of                
 experts to tackle the problem.  Because of the success, attention             
 to the problem began to wane and resources began to dry up to the             
 extent that currently the contributions by the federal government             
 and the IHS are minuscule.                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA stressed that the assistance did not diminish because            
 the federal government and the IHS was shirking the problem.                  
 Unfortunately, other problems had to be met and resources were                
 shifted.                                                                      
                                                                               
 In 1991, Dr. Nakamura returned to Alaska and TB infection rates               
 were about 12.5 per 100,000.  It was thought the problem was                  
 controlled, and it was hoped TB would be eliminated in Alaska.  At            
 that point, Dr. Nakamura called Dr. John Middaugh to brief the HESS           
 Committee members.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 1545                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. JOHN MIDDAUGH, Chief, Section of Epidemiology, Department of              
 Health and Social Services, asked for the help of all Alaskans in             
 dealing with TB.  Alaska has a devastating history of TB.  Alaska             
 Native people, from about 1920 to 1950, had the highest rates and             
 the worst experiences with TB ever known in the world.  One of the            
 greatest public health success stories was the almost eradication             
 of TB which occurred when huge efforts to deal with TB began in the           
 1950s.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1573                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH added that a great debt is owed to physicians and                
 public health nurses who controlled TB for all of us in the 1950s,            
 60s and 70s.  He is dismayed to report that Alaskans have not been            
 good stewards of that debt.  TB is making a huge comeback both                
 nationally and in Alaska.  In addition to more individuals having             
 TB, many of those with infections have strains which cannot be                
 cured by modern technology and antibiotics due to the bacteria                
 developing resistance to antibiotics relied upon to cure infected             
 individuals.                                                                  
                                                                               
 In the last few years, these resistant strains have developed                 
 nationally.  Currently in Alaska there are individuals that are               
 resistant to all known medicines.  It was a wake-up call for the              
 American people when 300 people on the East Coast became infected             
 with these multiple-drug resistant organisms.  Half of those                  
 individuals died.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 1635                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated that TB can be controlled, but it is difficult            
 in terms of clinical expertise needed for diagnosis and treatment.            
 Each person infected must have a health evaluation.  If medication            
 is needed, there may be side effects, medication may be difficult             
 to acquire, and the medicines are not effective unless taken for a            
 long time.                                                                    
                                                                               
 The routine treatment for TB is nine months of numerous pills which           
 must be taken every day.  If the organism is drug resistant,                  
 medical treatment may be required for up to 24 months.  Dr.                   
 Middaugh reminded HESS Committee members of how difficult it is to            
 remember to take medicine for a week.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 1687                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that recently unusually large, widespread              
 outbreaks have been identified in some rural villages.  TB is a               
 statewide problem.  There are individuals with TB in virtually all            
 communities, both urban and rural.  No place is protected.                    
                                                                               
 However, the unusual thing which has occurred is how widespread TB            
 has become in some villages.  Constant surveillance is part of the            
 work of the Department of Health and Social Services.  A very                 
 complicated network of teamwork is in place between health aides              
 and state public health nurses, IHB physicians, health                        
 corporations, the IHB, the military, private physicians and members           
 of the Division of Epidemiology.  Dr. Middaugh stated that health             
 aides and state public health nurses are critically important for             
 the maintenance of the ability to respond and prevent TB.  He added           
 that all the people in this network are trying to gain an                     
 understanding of what is occurring.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 1729                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH explained that this collective effort is critical for            
 the response and maintenance of outbreaks.                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said that it is difficult to know who has TB, or when            
 TB is occurring.  TB is spread by respiratory droplets put into the           
 air by sneezing, singing, coughing, etc.  TB can affect almost any            
 organ in the body.  It is a great clinical challenge to detect TB             
 for expert physicians with the most modern technology in certain              
 cases and in certain individuals.  The spread of TB occurs when the           
 disease settles in the lungs and the infected individual sneezes,             
 coughs or sings near others.  For example, an opera singer was                
 hired to give a private performance and consequently infected                 
 everyone in the room due to TB in her voice box.                              
                                                                               
 Number 1783                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH explained that when someone is infected, in most cases           
 no symptoms occur and no infection occurs.  The organism enters the           
 body and is carried to the lymph nodes, where the body's immune               
 system walls it away.  It can remain dormant for anywhere from                
 weeks to decades until an immune system breakdown occurs.  The                
 organism then breaks out and causes disease which attacks almost              
 any organ.  The most often organ attacked is the lungs which causes           
 the subsequent spread of the disease.                                         
                                                                               
 In some instances, when the organism first gets into the body, it             
 immediately causes severe illness and disease.  Given that most               
 infected individuals have no symptoms and don't know they are                 
 infected, how are they to be identified by health care individuals?           
                                                                               
 Number 1832                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH explained that when the organism gets into the body,             
 the body produces antibodies which can be detected by a skin test.            
 This requires the injection of some ground-up TB bacteria (which              
 cannot infect anyone) into the wall of the skin--not through the              
 skin but into the skin--with a little tiny needle.  Two days later            
 a person must feel that spot and feel for a bump.  The bump is an             
 indication that the organism has entered the body.  The infected              
 individual may not show any signs of sickness.  That is why                   
 schoolchildren are required to be tested for TB.                              
                                                                               
 Number 1864                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated that back in the 1940s and 1950s, 100 percent             
 of Alaska Natives had a positive skin test when screened for TB.              
 In the last few years, a Bethel area test identified five out of              
 2,200 children with a positive TB test.  That is a tremendous                 
 benefit of disease prevention.  However, this also means that all             
 these children are susceptible to infection.  If an adult tests               
 positive it is difficult to tell when he or she became infected               
 because once you skin test positive the test remains positive for             
 the rest of your life.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1903                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that the only way to figure out whether the            
 organism is dormant or if the body is ill and therefore infectious            
 (can spread the disease), is through an interview with the infected           
 person.  This interview contains questions about whether the person           
 has experienced symptoms of illness.  These include weight loss,              
 coughing up blood, soaking fevers and night sweats.  These symptoms           
 are not specific.  Many illnesses can cause these symptoms.                   
                                                                               
 The infected person then undergoes a chest X-ray if symptoms are              
 present.  These show changes in the lungs which sometimes can be              
 very useful in diagnosing TB.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1937                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said the final, definitive test is to obtain sputum              
 from coughing.  It is difficult for a person to cough up sputum on            
 demand.  Early morning sputum must be collected, and if the                   
 infected person resides in Bethel or in a remote area, it is                  
 difficult to get the sputum to a laboratory intact.  The sputum may           
 be mishandled or the container's top could pop off and the sample             
 could become contaminated.  But this sputum is important for TB               
 detection and to protect others who may be potentially infected.              
                                                                               
 The laboratory becomes a critical component of the ability to                 
 control TB.  The next step is the discovery of TB in the sputum in            
 the lab.  The sputum is placed on a slide, dried and stained for 20           
 minutes.  A person must then study the slide under a microscope for           
 anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes, searching for the presence of the             
 bacteria.  The sputum is also placed into culture media which have            
 to grow.  TB, unfortunately, grows very slowly.  Therefore it takes           
 three weeks until the lab can look to see if the organism is                  
 growing, they look again at six weeks, and they will check again at           
 eight months.  All information helps determine whether an infected            
 individual is diseased and infectious.                                        
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that the skin test surveillance program                
 consists of public health nurses testing every child every year in            
 rural areas.  These tests indicate the otherwise undetectable                 
 spread of TB.  If the childrens' skin tests change from negative to           
 positive, this means they were infected by someone else who is                
 coughing out TB.                                                              
                                                                               
 When the skin tests were done in Savoonga, a large number of TB               
 converters were found.  There are children known to have a                    
 previously negative test who suddenly tested positive.  In 1990 and           
 1991, there was a large outbreak of TB in Savoonga.  It was obvious           
 that business could not be done as usual.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 2046                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said teams were mobilized and sent to Savoonga.  Then            
 it was found that converters were present in Gambell, and teams               
 were sent to Gambell.  More skin tests found converters in villages           
 in Southwest Alaska.  At this point, the teams were busy and the              
 personnel was not available to address these outbreaks.  Therefore            
 the local public health nurses, along with the physicians at the              
 Yukon Kuskokwim Health Corporation and the village health aides,              
 began the investigation in the villages in Southwestern Alaska.               
                                                                               
 Number 2052                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that at the same time, a similar outbreak              
 was detected on St. Paul, and a group called "Up with People"                 
 visited Alaska to bring young adults and entertainers.  An "Up with           
 People" coordinator widely visited Alaska to make housing                     
 arrangements for the entertainers and kids.  This person had active           
 pulmonary tuberculosis and the Department of Health and Social                
 Services has already detected 10 people that she infected.  A list            
 of almost 50 more people she came into contact with have yet to be            
 investigated.                                                                 
                                                                               
 There is a national outbreak which is being investigated by the               
 Department of Health and Social Services and the Centers for                  
 Disease Control (CDC) because of the "Up with People" individual.             
 She was very infectious and must have infected many people.                   
                                                                               
 Number 2105                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH spoke of the logistics involved when a team is sent to           
 a village.  Health aides, the local public health nurses, a nurse             
 epidemiologist from the Department of Health and Social Services,             
 physicians and a mobile X-ray technologist comprise a team.  This             
 team goes out to the villages and skin tests every person who has             
 previously tested negative.  They interview those infected with TB            
 for symptoms and then do chest X-rays based on that information.              
 The X-rays have to be flown back via one- or two-day air to                   
 Anchorage where they are developed, processed and read by                     
 radiologists.  A radiologist calls the village to request that ill            
 individuals provide sputum samples.  The samples are then taken to            
 the lab for further diagnosis.                                                
                                                                               
 Each ill individual must be provided with an individualized                   
 treatment plan.  Medications often have side effects which also               
 must be dealt with.  In summary, the logistics of accomplishing               
 this process are formidable.                                                  
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH showed HESS Committee members large sheets for each              
 person in the village of Savoonga.  Each sheet lists names by                 
 family, the ages of family members, the date of their last skin               
 test and the result of that test, chest X-ray data, symptoms,                 
 sputum and sputum results.  The lab is called at three and six                
 weeks.  When a person tests positive for illness, the information             
 is sent back to the village in order to assist the health aide and            
 nurses.  The nurses trace the infectious persons, and follow up to            
 see if a person was missed.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 2177                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said this effort is only to detect who is infected.              
 An infected person must be treated, and treatment for individuals             
 with active TB routinely consists of the administration of four               
 medications to start with.  They must take this medication every              
 day for two months.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 2190                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH commented that this is one of the major challenges of            
 TB, because if you are a busy health aide you are responsible for             
 many other illnesses and problems in addition to TB.  If you have             
 one person ill with TB, the task is possible to accomplish.                   
 However, there are situations in which 50 people are ill with TB in           
 a village, and 129 people in the village who are in need of                   
 preventive treatment.  It is an impossible task for a health aide             
 to oversee the treatment of all these individuals.                            
                                                                               
 Number 2225                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH explained that what has happened is that individuals             
 begin treatment, stop, and then start again and stop again.  This             
 inconsistent medication enables the resistant organisms to develop.           
 We now know that it is not enough to tell people to take their                
 medicine.  It works for some people, but not everyone.  The                   
 standard is that every single person with TB receives "direct                 
 observed therapy," in which a health provider or an extended                  
 provider administers medication every day for the period of                   
 treatment.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 2247                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH explained that if people are not given the medicine              
 that will prevent them from spreading the disease and eventually              
 cure them of the illness, they can not only infect others but they            
 will infect others with the resistant organism.  These resistant              
 organisms are a huge problem.                                                 
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH prepared a packet of material to build on what he had            
 said so far.  Page 3 of the packet provided an update on the data             
 from seven villages from August 1994 to the present.  In those                
 seven villages the TB treatment teams, particularly the public                
 health nurses, have administered 2,918 skin tests (called PPDs by             
 the medical profession).  This involves holding children while they           
 are injected with the test and studying them three days later to              
 see if there has been a reaction.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 2306                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE returned to the meeting at 3:51 p.m.                           
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that 592 persons in these villages had 656             
 X-rays.  The X-rays were taken with a portable X-ray machine, which           
 had been boxed and weighs several hundreds of pounds.  These boxes            
 are flown to the villages with hundreds of pounds of film.  The               
 machines are set up in a clinic.  X-ray film is then flown back               
 from the village, developed and taken over to a radiologist.  The             
 radiologist and members of the Department of Health and Social                
 Services read the X-rays.  Based on the results of the X-rays,                
 sputum is requested.                                                          
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said sputum was requested from 460 individuals who               
 provided 1,169 sputum samples.  These samples have been smeared,              
 studied under a microscope, cultured, grown and studied.  The                 
 number of individuals finally diagnosed with active TB was 38.  It            
 is obvious that a lot of time and money must go into the diagnosis            
 and prevention of this disease.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 2337                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH expressed relief that there only were 38 infectious              
 cases in Alaska.  Each one has had a medical examination and drugs            
 have been prescribed.  These drugs have side effects, however, and            
 blood tests are taken to monitor liver function.  Individuals are             
 also monitored to make sure that the medication is taken.                     
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH then discussed PPD converters and reactors.  A                   
 converter is someone they know has been recently infected.  A                 
 reactor is someone who is newly recognized with a positive skin               
 test but may have been infected more than two years ago.  All are             
 recommended to be put on antibiotics to protect against the                   
 eruption of illness.                                                          
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-4, SIDE B                                                             
 Number 000                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated that medication side effects can include liver            
 failure, therefore patients are also monitored for symptoms of                
 liver damage.  Other things, such as infections, other drugs and              
 alcohol can damage a person's liver.  One person was placed on a TB           
 drug referred to as INH a few years ago.  He developed some side              
 effect symptoms and was told to stop taking the drug.  He did not             
 stop taking the medicine and went into liver failure.  He had to              
 undergo a liver transplant.  The costs to that person and to the              
 system were huge.                                                             
                                                                               
 Because of falling funds and staff turnover, there has been a loss            
 of some institutional expertise and memory.  Recently an individual           
 known to have infectious pulmonary TB wanted to fly somewhere.  As            
 Dr. Middaugh's colleagues were attempting to quarantine that person           
 and convince him not to fly, he flew to Anchorage.   Presently, the           
 Department of Health and Social Services has the flight crew and              
 all passengers under surveillance to see if they were infected.               
 The Department of Health and Social Services is working to                    
 reacquaint itself with how to deal with such a situation.                     
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH added that some of the assumptions of quarantine laws            
 are that everyone will be cooperative and able to take medication             
 for a long period of time.  Incentive programs are in place to                
 encourage people to take their medicine.  In another case, a person           
 would not take their medicine so the quarantine law was implemented           
 only for the purposes of getting the person to take their                     
 medication.  This was not a punitive decision.                                
                                                                               
 Number 179                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH commented that this quarantine was challenged by a               
 public defender and there was a hearing before Christmas of 1994.             
 The case was heard before the Supreme Court.  All this made it                
 clear that a new quarantine law is needed.  The old law is                    
 outdated, and the constitutionality of the old laws have changed.             
 A new quarantine law must be passed that protects the rights of the           
 individual but still enables the restraint and isolation of                   
 individuals when needed.                                                      
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH also said that because TB causes serious and                     
 irreversible damage, and because of the prevalence of TB in Alaska            
 between 1920 and the 1950s, there are numerous individuals with               
 severe lung damage from TB.  The flu may be fatal if contracted by            
 an elderly survivor of TB.                                                    
                                                                               
 A 36-year-old woman died in the Brother Francis Shelter in December           
 of 1994 from unrecognized, undiagnosed TB.  To Dr. Middaugh's                 
 knowledge, that is the first death of a young person from acute TB            
 in about 30 years.                                                            
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH concluded that the outbreaks have overwhelmed the                
 current system.  The infrastructure has deteriorated and it was               
 wrongly assumed that the expertise was available and the system was           
 working.  The system was actually working until the current                   
 outbreaks highlighted the deficiencies that have occurred.  In                
 addition, the population of Alaska has increased.                             
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said the bottom line is that TB can be controlled.               
 The expertise and the systems are in place.  But at this time there           
 is not a capacity to deal properly with the extent of these                   
 outbreaks.  It will take years to rebuild the whole infrastructure.           
                                                                               
 Number 355                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked if measures were in place to control the           
 spread of TB in the homeless populations, and if Dr. Middaugh had             
 recommendations at this time.  Representative Brice felt this was             
 important considering the transient nature of these populations and           
 the impact they may have on the urban centers.                                
                                                                               
 Number 405                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH replied that part of the current program was an effort           
 to both respond and contact-trace all of the detected cases, and to           
 provide clinical screening.  Generally, this is effective.  But the           
 problem with TB is that because it can be so difficult to diagnose,           
 to some degree, having adequate capacity to constantly watch these            
 people is the only way TB can be detected early.  He said there are           
 instances where TB can be a master of disguise.  Dr. Middaugh                 
 doubted there would ever be a single measure which would enable the           
 Department of Health and Social Services to notice every case when            
 it occurred.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 468                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked about measures taken after the woman               
 passed away at the Brother Francis Shelter, and what communication            
 took place within the department to inform the rest of the state.             
                                                                               
 Number 496                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that the woman was very sick when she entered           
 the shelter.  She died shortly thereafter, and TB was unexpectedly            
 discovered to be the cause of death at the autopsy.  Immediately,             
 teams and the city health department tested and evaluated all                 
 people at the shelter.  A few individuals were found to have                  
 positive skin tests, but it is difficult to tell when they                    
 contracted TB.  There were no other known active cases that she may           
 have caused.                                                                  
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH commented that whether the Department of Health and              
 Social Services finds a recent converter or a person with an active           
 illness, a major investigation is mounted with the local health               
 services.  This is in order to follow up on who is infectious.                
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said he just got a team out to Bethel villages in                
 January.  He felt the teams should have been there six months                 
 earlier but they were busy elsewhere.  At the moment, the teams               
 have been scrambling in an attempt to respond to these widespread             
 outbreaks while all the underlying cases are occurring.  These                
 cases are well-handled by the existing public health nurse and                
 community health aide/local physician structure.  These people are            
 an important part of the TB control team, they help detect new                
 cases.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 620                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked why the upsurge in TB is occurring.                     
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that the major reason is that we are now                
 paying the price of 10 years of erosion in public health.  This               
 erosion took place both in the IHS and the state of Alaska.  The              
 Savoonga outbreak should have been far less severe.  But there were           
 no public health nurses, the positions and money were there but               
 they were unable to fill those positions in Nome.  The skin test              
 screening program which should have occurred in the fall of 1993              
 did not take place until the summer of 1994.  It is very likely               
 that had the skin test program occurred on time, only one or two              
 individuals would have been identified with TB.                               
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said there was a huge outbreak in Savoonga in 1990 and           
 1991 that took two years to control.  At that time, the Department            
 of Health and Social Services felt they had regained control.                 
 However, they also know that they must visit villages repeatedly              
 because an infected person may not convert their skin test for up             
 to three months.  That person could potentially develop illness at            
 any time.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 725                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH continued that in the Bethel area, there are six                 
 itinerant Public Health Nurse positions and five were vacant at the           
 time of the outbreaks.                                                        
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked about the man who refused to take his                   
 medication and stay quarantined.                                              
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said that the man was met upon arrival in Anchorage,             
 hospitalized and treated.                                                     
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked how long after the administration of the drug           
 INH a person becomes safe, or noninfectious.                                  
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that a person with infectious pulmonary TB is           
 given three or four different medicines.  Within a period of two to           
 three weeks those individuals become noninfectious to others.                 
 However, that is contingent upon them taking the medicine                     
 consistently and the organism being sensitive to the medication.              
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated when an organism is grown in the lab,                     
 sensitivity tests are conducted in which the culture is exposed to            
 different antibiotics in order to check for resistance.  If the               
 organism is resistent, the individual is given second-line                    
 medications which are less effective and have more side effects.              
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked about TB tests for food handlers.                       
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH said they were no longer testing for TB in people who            
 handle food.  TB is not spread by food, by droplets that hit a                
 table or chair, or by bedclothes.  It is only spread by the direct            
 inhalation of respiratory droplets.                                           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CAREN ROBINSON asked if the Department of Health and           
 Social Services was working on changes in quarantine laws, and if             
 legislation was imminent.                                                     
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that the Department of Health and Social                
 Services has been working closely with the Department of Law to               
 examine what is needed in a law, and to obtain model laws from                
 other states.  A team from the CDC is coming to Alaska in February            
 in order to develop legislation and see whether it is appropriate             
 at this time to pursue that legislation.  They want to make sure              
 the bill is perfect and will accomplish what is necessary in order            
 to protect the public health and to protect individual rights and             
 due process.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 903                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE said that in other states, people with sexually                
 transmitted diseases have been prosecuted under a reckless                    
 endangerment-type of statute.  He stated that he understood the               
 department was looking at the long term, but he wondered if it was            
 possible to deal with the short-term with a reckless endangerment-            
 style statute.  This would protect the public health.                         
                                                                               
 Number 931                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH gave the opinion that currently adequate protection              
 exists in the interpretations of the current quarantine provisions.           
 He didn't think that the reckless endangerment statute would be               
 necessary to protect short-term interests at this time.  However,             
 it would be beneficial to update the old quarantine law in order to           
 streamline processes.                                                         
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE asked if the decision to quarantine was made after             
 the ill man got onto the airplane.  He recounted Dr. Middaugh's               
 statement that persuasion was attempted.  Co-Chair Bunde asked                
 whether there was a "stick to go with the carrot."                            
                                                                               
 Number 994                                                                    
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH clarified that the quarantine incident was not the               
 same as the airplane incident.  In the airplane incident, the call            
 was placed dealing with the problem, but the airplane took off five           
 minutes before the team reached the airport.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1009                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked how much help was being received by the                 
 federal government.                                                           
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH replied that the Department of Health and Social                 
 Services was receiving about $300,000 in grant money from the CDC.            
 From that, $200,000 goes to the sectional laboratories, and the               
 rest goes to the center for epidemiology.  Co-Chair Toohey                    
 commented that $300,000 is not very much money.                               
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH's opinion is that in the 1950s, the IHS came to Alaska           
 in response to a report which investigated the health status of               
 Alaskan Natives.  Because of TB it was reported back to congress              
 that the health of Alaskan Natives was a national disgrace.  That             
 was a quote from the report.  IHS then attacked TB and did a good             
 job, but in the last 10 years, the IHS has steadily reduced its               
 contribution to TB control, as has the state.  The resources                  
 available today are diminished to deal with TB.  We have also lost            
 part of the knowledge infrastructure, such as the expertise, the              
 knowledge of how to work together, how to work with a community               
 health aide and a public health nurse, how to get medication to               
 patients, how to get sputums into the labs and how to work with the           
 court system.  All these factors differ in each community.  The               
 Department of Health and Social Services needs to rebuild this                
 knowledge base.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1110                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY mentioned that a quarantine bill would be highly              
 contested because of the HIV/AIDS epidemic.                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH hoped that the quarantine effort would be limited only           
 to the immediate problem of TB.  He would like the bill to be very            
 specific on that issue in order to head off contention.  He finds             
 it hard to believe that there would be any way to develop                     
 legislation which would provide benefits in relation to the                   
 quarantine of HIV positive people.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 1156                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON noticed from the charts that Dr. Middaugh             
 supplied, it appears that TB is prevalent in the Asian populations.           
 She also wondered about the prevalence of outbreaks in the rural              
 communities.  She asked if this is due to the lack of medical care            
 or is it just because of the location of an infectious person.  She           
 wondered why the urban areas are not affected.                                
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH responded that the lack of TB in Alaska's urban areas            
 is simply that year's good luck.  The chart shows only data for one           
 year.  A 10-year map would show cases in Juneau, Fairbanks and most           
 every community.                                                              
                                                                               
 The rate of TB is very high in southeast Asians.  The total numbers           
 are much lower.  The total number of southeast Asians is much less            
 than the population of Alaska Natives in reference to the total               
 population.  While the rate is very high and a great concern, the             
 southeast Asians counted for 19 cases of TB in a period of time               
 that Alaskan Natives contributed 66 cases.                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON inquired as to the fate of Dr. Frasier, a             
 man who warned her in the late 1980s or early 1990s about an                  
 imminent outbreak of TB.                                                      
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that Dr. Frasier retired and is living in               
 Anchorage.  He is owed a great debt for the contributions he made             
 to TB control.  There are many people in public health who try to             
 warn individuals all the time that if the preventive practices are            
 eroded, a heavy price will be paid.  Those systems have eroded and            
 the bill is coming due.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 1273                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY stated that people are now faced with another                 
 epidemic and it needs to be controlled.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 1281                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE RICHARD FOSTER noted that six of the seven villages            
 listed in Dr. Middaugh's chart "Tuberculosis in Alaska, 1994-95:              
 Outbreak Investigation" were in his district.  He estimated that              
 his district and the district of Representative Ivan contained                
 three-quarters of the cases in Alaska.                                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER stated that he was in the fourth grade in               
 Nome, Alaska and they all tested positive for TB in 1956.  All the            
 way through high school, his class was 100 percent positive and               
 they were very thankful to the medical service that they were                 
 monitored every year.                                                         
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER flew Dr. Sullivan and Dr. Sanders from the              
 late 1960s until 1988 every year with their X-ray equipment to all            
 the villages.  He is not aware that Dr. Sanders has been replaced             
 since 1989.  Representative Foster wrote the Department of Health             
 and Social Services a letter in January of 1989 expressing concerns           
 that Dr. Sanders be replaced.  The department responded that HIV              
 was of prime concern and resources were being converted to other              
 diseases because TB was felt to be under control.                             
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER felt perhaps he was premature in his letter,            
 but the packet handed out by Dr. Middaugh also states that priority           
 was given to other diseases.  The urban areas don't experience this           
 type of problem, and an editorial he had from the Anchorage                   
 newspaper states that if one out of every three Anchorage residents           
 was infected with TB, government would respond differently.                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER stated the Tuberculosis Control Program                 
 status report of February 2 which was provided for the overview               
 states that the ability to take X-rays in the field was compromised           
 initially and then failed totally.  Representative Foster spoke to            
 Drs. Nakamura and Middaugh and said that this failure was within              
 their own department.                                                         
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER stated that he twice went to Vietnam as a               
 company captain.  If a company commander or a battalion commander             
 messed up and didn't take responsibility, he was replaced because             
 the danger of his people was being compromised.  Representative               
 Foster stressed that he has very strong feelings about this issue.            
                                                                               
 DR. NAKAMURA answered that he respected this concern.  Because of             
 the lack of manpower to control the problem, services have been               
 purchased under contract.  These contracts are just now being                 
 reviewed.  He agreed that if the system is not working, it should             
 be replaced.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1422                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN remembered that everyone in his family took the           
 TB drug INH everyday, and they looked out for each other to make              
 sure the medication was taken.  Neighbors also watched each other.            
 At that time the federal government had the resources and mobilized           
 to address the problem.  Representative Ivan had two brothers who             
 became ill and were hospitalized in Anchorage.  They are now                  
 healthy, but as patients they were taught how to prevent TB.  They            
 were the best disciples after they came out of the hospital and               
 would educate and admonish others on how to stop the spread of TB.            
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN commented that information and education about            
 the disease needs to be brought back up to that level.  There are             
 many more health services in place now to help do that, such as               
 health aides, the regional health corporation, the Bristol Bay                
 Health Corporation, etc.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1520                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN asked what the plan was to get back to the                
 1950s level of control.  He noted that bulletins are being sent out           
 by the Department of Health and Social Services periodically, and             
 messages are being put in the local papers.  He said that                     
 information should be given to regional nonprofit associations and            
 regional corporation because they can disseminate information well.           
                                                                               
 Number 1531                                                                   
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH responded that the moment's primary concern is to                
 complete the investigations in the particular villages.  A team               
 will be returning to Savoonga and Gambell on February 6, along with           
 the portable X-ray equipment.  Other teams will be visiting the               
 villages of Southwest Alaska in March, and then all of the villages           
 will again be visited in May and September.  These visits will be             
 follow up visits to insure that all infected individuals have been            
 identified, are under treatment, and that the infrastructure is               
 back in place.                                                                
                                                                               
 The next task is to widely spread the message and rebuild the                 
 knowledge in local areas among everyone.  There are great                     
 challenges in certain communities, such as the southeast Asian                
 communities, some of whom are very transient and work in the                  
 canneries.  Messages to these groups are being tailored.  The CDC             
 TB division has been asked for assistance and they may provide                
 additional resources.                                                         
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated that education is something that entire                   
 communities must respond to.                                                  
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY asked about cases of TB which were drug resistant.            
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH responded that the numbers since 1988 have been small,           
 and the resistant organisms listed in his packet of information               
 have been resistant to just INH, or INH and the other primary TB              
 drug.  He knows of one southeast Asian in Alaska who has a strain             
 of TB that is resistant to all antibiotics.  His department has               
 been working with the CDC and the National Jewish Hospital,                   
 consulting with national experts about that person and her family.            
 At this time her sputum is negative and she is constantly being               
 monitored.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1673                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY inquired as to the fatality rate of drug-resistant            
 TB.                                                                           
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH responded that the fatality rate for untreated TB is             
 estimated to be about 50 percent.  This includes the drug resistant           
 strains.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1690                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE asked if the drug resistant strain developed here              
 from inconsistent treatment or if it arrived in Alaska from                   
 somewhere else.                                                               
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH stated the aforementioned case was imported, but the             
 origin of multiple-drug resistant TB is from patients who began               
 taking medications and then stopped, or didn't take them properly.            
 In many foreign countries, you can buy any antibiotic off the                 
 shelf, therefore the emergence of some of these resistant organisms           
 is coming from Third-World and southeast Asian countries.  They               
 believe this person was infected with a drug-resistant strain, and            
 a drug-compliance problem made it completely resistant.                       
                                                                               
 Number 1740                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR BUNDE expressed concern that the technology is available             
 to control the disease, but the psychology is not available to deal           
 with the people who are hurting themselves and others.  Co-Chair              
 Bunde asked if Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) are             
 available in Alaska that checks immigrants for TB as they arrive.             
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH replied that the whole issue of immigration and TB is            
 under national review.  He stated tentatively that an immigrant can           
 be denied admission into the United States if they have TB, and all           
 immigrants have to be evaluated and submit paperwork about TB and             
 other infectious diseases.  But in the last 15 to 20 years,                   
 numerous individuals have been permitted to arrive in America                 
 infected with TB.  There have recently been very detailed reviews             
 about this because in general, INS has been letting infected people           
 into America with resistant infectious TB and placing them on the             
 doorsteps of state legislators to fund their treatment and deal               
 with the problem--another unfunded federal mandate so to speak.               
                                                                               
 Number 1813                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked about global TB statistics.                        
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH responded that he did not have an exact figure, but TB           
 is one of the leading causes of death in the world.                           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked what international organizations, such             
 as the World Health Organization, were doing.                                 
                                                                               
 DR. MIDDAUGH answered that the World Health Organization is very              
 involved in the control of TB, malaria, HIV, etc.  Their success              
 depends on the resources of each country.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 1856                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked what is going to be done, and if the            
 department would report back to the HESS Committee members with a             
 proposal and a plan, so that the legislature can assist in                    
 controlling the epidemic.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 1880                                                                   
                                                                               
 COMMISSIONER PERDUE answered that extra funds will go to control              
 this year, and to strengthen prevention efforts next year.  She               
 said the HESS Committee will be seeing plans.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1889                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY agreed that the effort should be refocused on                 
 public health and prevention.                                                 
                                                                               
 ADJOURNMENT                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIR TOOHEY adjourned the meeting at 4:30 p.m.                            
                                                                               
                                                                               

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